Sewage Treatment: Fiction and Fact

Written by Harold McNeill on March 19th, 2017. Posted in Tim Hortons Morning Posts

Capital Regional District

Collage (L to R): (T) From various web sources. Langford, Sidney, Victoria, Saanich, Highlands,
(C) Esquimalt, (Malahat), (CRD) Oak Bay, Metchosin,
(B) Colwood, Sooke, North Saanich, Central Saanich, View Royal

The reason for linking the following comments to the issues swirling around amalgamation is that dealing with sewage treatment is frequently pointed to as being one more reason amalgamation would save us from all manner of problem. Of course, that is not true, but there is no dissuading those who think amalgamation is the answer to every problem.  Previous posts on the topic of amalgamation are provided in the footer.    (This post opened to public on March 25, 2017).

March 16, 2017: The following comments were posted by Mr. Gilbert on an open Facebook page that deals with Local Government Issues in the Capital Regional District of Southern Vancouver Island. Link to the Original Post and Comments   Thanks Bryan for taking the time to provide further insight on this topic.

Bryan Gilbert:

Recently I listened to some friends talking about sewage treatment and I felt very sad to hear how uninformed they were. I don’t blame them because the media has been very one-sided on this issue. Here are ten common misunderstandings about sewage treatment with facts that are verifiable. If you can’t find the source then ask. I offer the following to inform and encourage people to check the back story before believing what we have been told:

Belief 1: Our CRD sewage project solves a major marine environmental problem.
Facts: If local marine scientists had control over 765 million dollars they would fix many other issues before doing sewage treatment.

Belief 2: Our beaches will be safe for swimming and we can harvest shellfish after sewage treatment.
Facts: Beach closures will continue until municipalities like Oak Bay fix their combined storm and sewage pipe systems. After every major rainfall raw, unfiltered sewage is discharged directly onto our beaches. Shellfish fisheries will remain closed until is this and storm water run off are fixed.

Belief 3: The CRD sewage treatment project is an environmental project.
Facts: No one has done any environmental cost-benefit analysis. Put another way. There is no evidence showing this project offers any quantifiable benefit that matches the huge cost. Also consider that the whole point of sewage treatment is to concentrate most of the harmful stuff on land. There is no firm long-term plan for what to do with this harmful stuff other than store it: in a toxic landfill. The Provincial Liberal government suggests we spread the harmful stuff across someone’s land.

Belief 4: The CRD sewage project is fully costed at $765 million.�Facts. This is a government run
Facts: This is a government run mega-project, but worse is the second half of the project hasn’t even been designed! (Just like the Johnson St Bridge project when it was started.) The $189 million allocated for residuals only stores them for some later process that is yet to be determined. To make matters worse we can not see any details about the project budget even though the CRD has already spent 10’s of millions above the stated total. Then on top of all this is the cost to borrow the money which easily add $400 million or more.

Belief 5: CRD sewage treatment will reclaim the water, like Dockside Green.
Facts: The treated effluent will not be safe for human contact: it must be discharged deep into the ocean. Even if someday we wanted to add more treatment we can’t because the site is too small. Even if we solve that problem any reclaimed water still needs to be piped across the harbour and uphill to consumers. This will always be more expensive compared to other sources. Bottom line: we will never reclaim the water.

Belief 6: The CRD sewage project is sized correctly to account for future needs.
Facts: In fact the project is oversized. CRD data shows that sewage flows are declining over the past 10 years; even as population grows. The project size has been fixed at 108 MLD even though we only need to treat 70 MLD. That’s 54% over capacity. Even if we need to add more capacity in the future we can add a module into the system at another location.

Belief 7: The CRD project is a good long term investment.
Facts: The treatment site is on the shore and will be subject to problems from sea level rise. There is no study for tsunami risk from the Devil’s Mountain fault line. There is no economic way to recover the heat in sewage. Plus see all the above. It is shameful we’ll spend a billion on this project as we face the challenges of global warming.

Belief 8: The federal government demands sewage must be treated by 2020.
Facts: The federal government says we must have a plan and work towards this plan in good faith. It doesn’t have to be done by 2020.

Belief 9: The CRD sewage treatment project is the most cost-effective way to treat sewage.
Facts: There is a lower cost way to treat the sewage and get real environmental benefits. A world leader in waste water technology advised the CRD on June 9, 2015 they had a 250 million dollar solution. No one has provided a single reason why the concepts behind the lower cost option is wrong. According to the CRD’s technical oversight panel this alternative approach is the way to go. This proposal reclaims water and heat. The proposal reduces our region’s greenhouse gasses in a significant way. And it saves $500 million for other priorities.

Previous Posts about Amalgamation

Amalgamation in Greater Victoria (February 2011)

Amalgamation: Questions and Answers (October 2014)

Amalgamation: A Search for the Truth (October 2014)

Local Communities: Keeping the Spirit Alive (November 2014)




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  • Harold McNeill

    January 13, 2019 |

    Well, my dear, it’s that time again. How the years fly by and the little ones grow but try as you may you will have a hard time catching up to your Daddy. Lots of love young lady and may your day be special
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    January 5, 2019 |

    Guess what? My response went to the Spam folder. Hmm, do you suppose the system is trying to tell me something?

  • Harold McNeill

    January 5, 2019 |

    Thanks, Terrance. Your comment came through but went to the Spam folder. Have pulled it out and approved. Can you send another on this post to see if you name is now removed from Spam? I’m not sure why it does that. Cheers, Harold

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    December 21, 2018 |

    Hi Dave,

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    Thanks, Lynn. It appears there was a problem with the comment system. Cheers, Harold

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  • Maurice Smook

    August 13, 2016 |

    Hi Jillian,

    I don’t know if you are still checking this site but I had to respond again. February of 2017 it will be 72 years since this battle occurred.

    What caught my attention about this incident was on the Go Deep Documentary that aired on the History Channel. First of all I never known that this battle having ever occurred.

    According to my grade 3 teacher WW2 had never occurred. That grade 3 teacher stated that the WW2 and the holocaust was all propaganda. All of my classmates they believed her. I hate to say this but all I knew was that soldiers shooting at each other.

    I almost was expelled from school. My

    Mom my Dad my brother and my Uncle would have been arrested for propaganda. I paid the price. It was ironic a grade 5 teacher told me that Smooks are all commies. Dad was Conservative.

    All the Smooks that I known are all Conservative. If I had the money I would have loved to sue those two teachers.

    As I said I never heard of this Battle. If it were not for that program I would have never had known.

    I started to do more researching to find out more about the history of this battle. The narrator of Go Deep mentioned the names of the pilots who died that battle.

    I missed 20 minutes of that program but the camera crew had the camera’s pointed towards the sign with the names of the deceits. That is how I known.

    According to the narrator There are three who are still missing. W.J. Jackson, Harry Smook and A. Duckworth. A couple of months ago the staff of Go Deep have located Harry and A. Duckworths aircraft. This is on you tube. Harry and A. Duckworth craft is approx 650 feet deep in the Fjord. The individual who is heading this expansionary mission made it known he will not rest until all three of the missing pilots
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    What really puzzles me is that I have sent emails to the Smooks. Not one ever replying. I presume its the same with you. Sad. Dad rarely spoke about his family. It appears there is a big secret of the Smooks. I too assume Harry is a kin to my Dad. Harry maybe a 4th 5th cousin to my Dad. I too would like to know. Harry and A. Duckworth served and died for our country. The other is W.j. Jackson – who is also still missing – having died for our Country.

    In conclusion I still ask myself why is this a huge secret.

    If you are still checking this site please contact me. Maybe we may be kin.

    Take care.